I really like this idea of being able to weave the ideology into the story well. I think we can all agree that when it comes to creative outlets, people generally don't like to be preached to. For me, when expressing my ideological beliefs I think it is critical to make the ideology literally a part of the story, something that feels natural and not have like one character outright preaching it. Subtly matters.
This is kind of what I meant by the post. If the author belongs to a specific religious group and is a devout follower of that group, and decides to write a fictional story based on the religious beliefs, then should they be allowed to espouse all their beliefs without feeling shame for it or being attacked. Essentially the concept of going against the grain and not following traditional normative values.
I personally have a different world view than most people I've seen on Tapas, and just would generally love to share that worldview to the Tapas community in the best way I know how, comics and good storytelling!
This of course coming from a Sunni muslim.
Honestly its just one of those things where it has to be well written. A modest proposal is one of the ones I like to point at the most for this. Sure it was mostly to prove a point rather then actually talk people into eating babies but the fact remains that its a pretty messed up idea, but it was also an entertaining one that had an idea behind it.
Meanwhile we have Atlas shrugs where- although I disagree with the ideas in this book anyways- that wasnt what made me drop it. I dropped it because it was DULLLLLLLLL. Like the book feels horribly nialistic and thats fine- ive read series of unfortunate evens- i can handle sad and miserable- but it was a book that truly lacked any personality. even parts i think where meant to be nostalgic or romantic felt like padding to get to that famous forth wall braking rant. LIke..... FEK its dull.
I like to understand people and ill read a lot of books that might have lessons i would normally disagree with to see where someone is coming from. But if you cant be consistent or like... be interesting then im out.
I don't think so. Well, to be more precise, the most annoying answer, "it depends". There are some ideologies that are downright repulsive and disgusting to me, and I won't be physically capable of tolerating work that promotes these views without getting angry. Like VHEMT or Luddism propaganda, for example.
Depends if I get bored with it, frustrated or it can be used for sweet meme fuel. 
natty comics didn't deserve to die.
First off, It can just be me but I find it iffy. You call LGBT Comics, ideological based. If you mean some of the ones that lean politically then I get that. Cus quiet a few have some very political beliefs that I sometimes don't agree with period... points vaguely at a few... but if you mean comics with just and LGBT cast then... yikes.... human rights isn't idiolectal based.. its a right. That's an excuse of bigorty I hear everyday.
But on the topic.
Here's the thing If I want to expose myself to different beilfs vastly different from my own. Reading their stuff ain't helping. Best I go to the source and learn how they form. Cus... If its just bigotry's then... why would read a work saying my race, gender and sexuality is going to led to destruction, or something asanine? No matter how well written it is.
Main character difference in beliefs then yes. I don't agree with vigilante justice at all. Period. F that. But I would read a good bat man story
my man you shouldn't worry too much about backlash. As far as I know the site doesn't censor stuff like this.
You shouldn't be bothered wether the general populus will approve it or not, if you enjoy doing it, chances are some people will enjoy reading it.
As long as it isn't more propaganda than story, I can read something with antagonizing ideas to my own to see another person's point view; other thing is if I'll like it or not.
Yes, I will absolutely read a well written novel/comic that doesn't align
with my values. In fact many historical novels are obviously imprinted by their period's values.
However I REFUSE TO READ PROPAGANDA. No matter what side, not even the side that I support. That's a desperate attempt to shove your values down people's throats.
Saying LGBTQ+ is ideological is like saying being born with brown hair or green eyes is ideological. LGBTQ+ rights are not ideology, they're basic human rights and religion does not justify bigotry.
But yes, I would read stories with different ideological beliefs than my own as long as those beliefs are not prejudiced.
Probably not, unless the story is really interesting and they don't beat me over the head with their ideology, tho there are specific cases where I wouldn't even consider reading at all even if its interesting.
Probably not. I'm an atheist and a skeptic. Obviously, the idea of a comic promoting or celebrating Islam does not interest me.
That said, that doesn't necessarily preclude the work of authors with vastly different views. I'm a big fan of "The Golden Age" trilogy of science fiction novels by John C. Wright. Wright is a virulently homophobic, ultra-rightwing Catholic. I would probably struggle to even have a civil conversation with a man like that. But the key is, he focuses on telling a good story above all else. In fact, I doubt I ever would have guessed his views from reading his work, alone.
That is an important thing to know, as an artist. People want a story, not a sermon. Stories that are contrived to push a certain ideology typically ring hollow and dishonest to the people who don't already agree.
I've noticed that too. I managed to read most of Orson C. Card's stuff without taking on board any of his cherished bigotries. Didn't even have a clue until I read an interview. Yikes.
Come to think of it, the list of authors who's works I've enjoyed, but who's views I don't share is pretty long.
I guess my views are based on reality, so fiction isn't going to change them much.
It totally depends on the ideology and the way the author portrays it.
For example, I am a muslim too and I like to read religious mithology. I loved Good Omens by Neil Gaimen and Terry Prechett (a parody about christian apocalypse) but I hated Neil Gaimen's American Gods (another story on mithologies but the events were too disturbing to read).
Also, I think the book shouldn't be all about the ideology or there shouldn't be some characters that are irrelevant to the storyline but exist just to promote the ideology. It is not a book but the best example for that would be netflix putting every single show an extra character that only exist to represent an ideology just to satisfy some certain audience.
I get it. The ideology is not the problem, but the way it is presented. It seems to me from reading this thread at least that some people are more in line with telling a good story regardless of which beliefs as long as it is not forced down there throats. Me, personally, my story includes religious phrases and themes. However, the one thing I wanted to avoid in my story was the sense of idealism where I only show the good that can come from the religion. I also want to show all the bad things that can be interpreted via the religion or show characters losing faith, essentially dealing with real world issues with regards to their faith. Just so I can make it more human and less preachy. Though at the end of the day, I will not be shy to say that in my story Islam will prevail in the end, it's just a matter of how the characters get to the point of letting their beliefs prevail, it won't be an easy open shut case, but one of pain suffering and genuine human qualities that people who are outside the faith could also understand, even if they don't agree.
But man, I don't agree with a lot of y'all views but man I respect you for saying something. This is all about building bridges if I'm to be honest and not about bigotry in the slightest. I Look forward to more responses! (Like I swear I DON'T CARE whether you guys agree with my views, I am not writing this story to preach my beliefs, I am wiring it to teach my beliefs. If you accept you, you accept it, if you don't I DON'T Care. Also, I don't know how many purely religious comics exist in tapas, but maybe this could help some religious minded folks write genuinely good stories about their own beliefs that don't contain bigotry. I'd honestly be interested to read some like that.
That's why groups and niches exist.
The problem is that many times it smells like blatant propaganda and it's not weaved into the story. The best, good example I can think of, that blends satire and political commentary with a very entertaining story, is Starship Troopers(movie).
The worst is, most things modern, which many new authors copy because that's their main exposure now. They're the shows of their generation. It's just in your face, rubbed multiple times, and that's on shows with themes I like!
To answer directly to your question? No absolutely not. I can barely stand things that I agree with to be peddled and shoved in my face.
I do go into things I disagree with because I want to see the other opinions and opposing perspectives, and switch off the second I feel emotionally charged. I'm smart enough to realize when my reasoning drops to twitter level.
I wouldn't read it for enjoyment.
Now, if it was something told through a character or a scenario and wasn't given plot armor because obviously the author supports things and it peaks my interest, sure I'll give a shot. I mean there's a manga right now with an elf that wants to fuck her cat and I still check it from time to time.
Yes because I like to hear both sides and come to my own conclusion. As long as it isn't preachy I will give it a shot whether it aligns with my views or not. Even when I'm reading stories with views that don't align with my own it can also give me inspiration while writing for my own characters.
There are things that have made me stop reading a story but I don't think any of them were 'ideologies', per se. They were just horrible things that I didn't want to continue putting into my memory. One even made me tear up the book.
You could certainly write a story that I'd read all the way through even if you'd woven religious concepts into it. I think most religions have teachings worthy of following and lessons about life & living that are worth hearing. Whether you're a religious person, or not.
I was raised in a rather strict Christian family but I write stories that include dragons, vampires and magic and feel no concerns, because they're just stories. Not religious manifestos. I do try to put some wholesomeness into them, though, because I think we all like some of that.